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7 years 5 months ago - 3 years 7 months ago #1903 by troid.org admin
As a preface to this discussion thread, the reader should carefully review the following PDF serialising the attempted coup of TROID in 2010. It provides preliminary information on what took place. This thread then discusses what path of those who partook in it.


Who from the Scholars and Du’aat Are Supporting this Treachery and Corruption in Toronto?

An attached PDF of the salafitalk.com thread on those who sought to bring down TROID in Toronto, Canada. This document is the prequel to this forum thread on TROID.

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By Abū Ḥakīm, Abū Khadījah and Abū Iyāḍ

The Question and Answer session from the seminar, "The Truth is Not Known by Men, Men are Known by the Truth" (Toronto, April 2012).

[Q5]: There were some brothers who (attempted) to cause some destruction in our community, which led to some splitting in our community. Some of them admitted to be connected to madīnah.com, being advised by them (madīnah.com - something they were called out on and never denied) and that they were involved in directing a plot, al-Hamdulillāh, they failed in their objectives and have now cooperated with a new centre called Dar al-Arqam, this organisation has cooperated with Said Regeah of al-Maghirb Institute, the companion of Abū Usāmah (who the Scholars have spoken against, he who attends KBW), they have links on their pages to Tariq Ramaḍān and Tariq as-Suwaydan, they continue to speak ill of and attack the Salafī centre here, whilst making a multitude of excuses for ahl-ahwā, what is your advice to them?

 

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7 years 5 months ago - 7 years 5 months ago #1904 by troid.org admin
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To back up some of the claims in the question above, here are clear examples of the cooperation of Dar al-Arqam with these individuals:

Promoting Tariq Ramadaan on the Dar al-Arqam main website (note Dar al-Arqam logo):



Tariq Ramaḍān, the known democrat and supporter of unislamic values:
www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=16&Topic=11918

Dar al-Arqam "likes Tariq as-Suwaidan" on Facebook



Suwaidan, one of the leaders of the methodology of the Ikhwaanul-Muslimoon in our time, refuted by numerous scholars over ten years ago, from the most famous lecturers in the circles of the Ikhwaanul-Muslimeen (a frequent attendee at "Reviving the Islamic Spirit" in Toronto):
www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?F...opic=968&sortby=desc

The Dar al-Arqam Facebook page (cover)



Dar al-Arqam Promoting their Fundraiser for their Masjid with "Shaykh" Said Regeah of the al-Maghirb Institute and Abū Hurairah Mosque as a Marquee Speaker/Fundraiser for Them



Said Regeah's homepage on al-Maghrib Institute:



Said Regeah and Abū Usamah together at Green Lane Mosque (long-time enemy of the Salafī du'aat in the UK and supporter of Abū Usamah, Bilāl Phlips, Yasir Qadhi etc.):



Said Regeah's conference at his masjid in Toronto with Abū Usaamah, Abū Muslimah and Bilāl Philips:



They say a picture says a thousand words, nonetheless, this is the same Said Regeah who partakes in the al-Maghirb Institute (perhaps the most clear enemy of the Salafī da'wah in the West) who's founder praised Anwar al-Awlaki:
www.troid.ca/index.php/forum/14-general-...odern-myths-conf#795

As for Abū Usamah, he is the one (like these individuals have taken to), who attacks the Salafīs far and wide such as Salafi Publications, TROID, many of the du'aat in the West, all the while defending the hizbiyyeen, Abū Muslimah, Bilāl Philips, Said Regeah, attends KBW, Abū Hurairah etc. - the one who speaks ill of Shaykh Rabee' Ibn Hādī:
www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=9&Topic=7061

Dar al-Arqam follows the open Qutbee Ṣāliḥ al-Munajjid on Twitter





Ṣāliḥ al-Munajjid, the one who praises and references Sayid and Muhammad Qutb, defending the honour of Sayyid Qutb, the spiritual figurehead of the kharajee manhaj in the modern era:

Muhammad Ibn Ṣāliḥ al-Munajjid: “Reading the books of those who passed before us has created a strong attachment in our souls for this Religion, because they write from a position of strength and superiority. And for this reason, we also encourage the people to read the modern books, those which were written by the Muslim with the spirit of superiority; such as the books of Sayyid Qutb. May Allaah bestow mercy upon him,” from the audio cassette, Kayfa taqra‘a Kitaab. He also stated in an-Naseehah li Islaahil-Buyoot (p. 23), “And here my brother reader, are some suggestions in this regard: In Tafsīr...Fee Dhilaalil-Qur‘aan of Sayyid Qutb.” And he later continued (p. 24), “Just as there are a number of good books on a variety of different issues, amongst them the books of the teacher, Sayyid Qutb – raḥimahullāh – al-Mustaqbal li Haadhad-Deen, Haadhad-Deen, Ma’aalim fit-Tareeq, Khasaa‘isut-Tasawwuril-Islāmee...”
Source: www.troid.ca/index.php/manhaj/abandoning...tings-of-sayyid-qutb

www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?F...opic=932&sortby=desc
www.sayyidqutb.com/


Dar al-Arqam Follows WhyIslam on Twitter - a site that promotes videos of Yasir Qadhi

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7 years 5 months ago - 7 years 5 months ago #1905 by troid.org admin
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Wallaahul-Musta'aan. How sad it is to see individuals who used to stand up and defend Ahl al-Sunnah, turn to these types of affiliations. All the while, continuing to criticise and attack the Salafī masjid and jama'aah. They have only harmed themselves in the end. May Allaah guide them back, ameen.


Particularly sad is the effect this has had on their kinsfolk (relatives, children etc.) who had been raised up amongst the safety and sanctity of ad-da'watus-salafiyyah, safe from all these channels to misguidance. So now they are turned away from attending Masjid al-Furqaan (TROID), from benefiting from the duroos with the scholars and the seminars with the Western du'aat etc. It is likely that some of them have had good thoughts for their family members, unaware of the advice and direction from the likes of Shaykh Muhammad Ibn Ramzān, our teacher, Abūl-'Abbass Mūsá, Abū Ḥakīm, Abū Khadījah, Abū Iyaḍ, Ḥasan al-Ṣumālī, Abūl-Ḥasan Maalik etc. and were led to believe (having good thoughts) that the claims of the assailants were accurate and justified. The aforementioned should make it abundantly clear, the direction past and current of TROID as regards to ad-Da'watus-Salafiyyah vs. the direction of this Dar al-Arqam, so ponder the powerful statement of the late Imām, Muqbil Ibn Hādī al-Waadi'ee:

Our da’wah and our ’aqīdah is more beloved to us than our own selves, our wealth and our offspring. So we are not prepared to part with it for gold, nor silver.


Our Da'wah - Imām Muqbil: www.troid.ca/index.php/manhaj/holding-on...manhaj/299-our-dawah

So by Allaah, we love and cherish this blessed 'Aqīdah more than our own selves or our own relatives or offspring! Subhan' Allaah

May Allaah keep us firm upon that which He loves and is pleased with, ameen!
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In the Name of Allāh, the Ever Merciful, the Bestower of Mercy

Lenient with Ahl al-Bidʿah,, Harsh with Ahl al-Sunnah! - A Signpost of the Hidden Ḥizbī?

The following lecture was conducted in 2002, almost 10 years ago. It reflects the position of Ahl al-Sunnah regarding innovation and its people. It illustrates the efforts of the Salafī duʿāʾʾʾt in the West to defend this noble religion and the fact that the same type of arguments (to water down al-Manhaj as-Salafī) existed then and before then, the manner in which the argument is made is all that changes. Same impostors, different disguises. So today, like then, we see the people expanding the raḍīus of 'al-Salafīyyah' to include Ahl al-Bidʿah, and the Ḥizbiyyīn, we see them criticizing the Salafī, sympathetic with the ḥizbī, searching after the faults of ahl al-sunnah (line by line, statement by statement) yet lenient and gentle with their opponents and enemies of the Salafī Daʿwah. The following contains quotes from the lecture by Ḥasan al-Ṣumālī entitled, Advice to the Salafīs of the West Concerning Jarḥ wa-al-Taʿdīl (Criticism and Praise): Look at the wise insight of the noble scholar, Shaykh Rabīʿ Ibn Hādī al-Madkhalī: "And strangely you find the youth becoming [audio unclear] with the people of innovation where they raise their banners and carry their defence and they defend them and aid them, and it is the case where their tongues turn to Ahl al-Sunnah and they attack Ahl al-Sunnah but as for Ahl al-Bidʿah, and Misguidance, they make excuses for them and defend them!" This statement from his book written over a decade ago, it is as if he saw the army approaching from a distance and warned the townsfolk in advance! Is this not what we see today? Abū ʿAbdullāh mentions: "Now the scales have switched, and now we see those people [who used to be with us] harsh upon Ahl al-Sunnah, their tongues quick to move, easy to move against ahl al-sunnah and to backbite and slander them but they seek excuses from the people of shubuhāt (doubts) and desires…" "…so a Salafī brother, they will say, he speaks too much about the people of innovation, he's harsh, he deals too much in jarh wa-al-taʿdīl, he is hadaadee (extreme) but when one comes towards who cooperates with the ḥizbiyyūn, they say to him 'you cannot speak about these matters for they are for the ʿUlamāʾ, O Miskīn, O Jāhil, Do you not know that you have made jarh of the Salafī, when you say that he [the Salafī] has backbitten (when he speaks about ahl al-bidʿah), this is (actual) ghībah (backbiting) but like we said, the scale has changed, and now it has come a time that people are asking us to be soft and lenient with ahl al-bidʿah and ahwā and harsh against ahl al-sunnah." So the daʿwah is one, has not changed, the enemies of ahl al-sunnah, change colours like a chameleon, new rhetoric, old agenda. From the lectures entitled, Advice to the Salafīs of the West Concerning Jarḥ wa-al-Taʿdīl (Criticism and Praise)


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7 years 5 months ago - 7 years 5 months ago #1914 by troid.org admin
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Where are they now?

If one remembers, it was in the name of Salafiyyah and preservation of the da'wah "in dire need" that some of these individuals claimed they indulged in a veil of secrecy, deceit, lies and treachery whilst their brothers were not only unaware but cooperating with them all the while in good thoughts, unsupeectingly.

So when they were prevented by Allaah (not by any of the creation, not by TROID, but by the All-Powerful [reflect!!]) from that which they desired of demise and destruction in the name of dawah and good manners, where did they turn for cooperation? To the likes of the organisation above. So where are your "manners" with Allaah and His Messenger (ṣallallāhu 'alayhi wa Sallam) when you cooperate openly with an organisation that promotes the death of the Sunnah through Ahlul-ahwaa? And since when did they become lecturers?



Official correspondance/representation of dar al arqam:



A clear description of who they follow, none clearer than the the twitter "following" page of Dirie Beyle:



This is the direction they and their string-pullers overseas (at madeenah com whom they boast allegiance to, and claim assistance from) wanted to direct the dawah at TROID. Make no mistake.
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Update [2016/03/02]: please refer to the bayān of Ziyad Qureshi here, may Allāh reward him for his clear retraction: www.troid.ca/forum/14-general-discussion...ah-com?start=20#2751
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[Q]: In our community, we have two individuals named Maruf Kedir and Aḥmad Geddy who helped spearhead a secretive conspiracy to overthrow the administration of the masjid. They attempted this claiming rectification and good, claiming they followed advice they were given. They approached numerous students of knowledge including Shaykh Dāwūd Adīb, Ḥasan al-Ṣumālī, Abū Khadījah and Mūsá Richardson. They were advised not to proceed as they did but rejected this advice and were reckless and relentless. There are some people, who, due to knowing these two brothers (Maruf Kedir and Aḥmad Geddy), for good manners, high morals etc. in the past - cannot find it possible that they were involved in any lying, deception or opposing advice. As the teacher who visited the Toronto community more than anyone else, please advise them regarding the reality of these two brothers, may Allaah guide them.

Audio: The Reality of Ahmed Geddy, Maruf Kedir and Tahir Farooq
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The latest allegiance between Darul-Arqam (and those from them who split away from the Salafīs and those students in Madeenah affiliated to madeenah_com) shows full-circle their migration towards open proponents of the Ikhwaanee methodology. Remember, way back when, it was Salafiyyah in Toronto, they were trying to save - "Daw'ah in Dire Need" as Maruf Kedir lamented!

The event below (which was scheduled on the same weekend as the Dāwūd Adīb visit [if it is "personal differences" as one of them said, what prevents them from visiting their elder Dāwūd Adīb and benefitting from him?)




The al-Huda Institute, that one half of the female duo of speakers is aligned with is the same organisation that hosts Kamal el-Mekki, Zakir Naik, "Shaykh" Muhammad al-Shareef, founder of al-Maghrib and praiser of Anwar al-Awlaki, Yaasir Qadhee, Tawfeeq Chowdhry and others:







A Who's Who of Hizbees:

Muhammad AlShareef

www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=14&Topic=2824

www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=9&Topic=1348

Yasir Qadhi

Refer to: www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=9&Topic=6237

Tawfique Chowdry

www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=6&Topic=3786

Waleed Basyouni

Well known for his cooperation with the Jamaat Tableegh, Ikhwaan Al-Muslimeen and other deviant groups here in Texas, this arrogant and self-centered individual states he was a student of Shaykhs Bin Bāz and Ṣāliḥ Al-Uthaymīn even though he goes against their principles of sitting and cooperating with the people of innovation and deviance.


Kamal el Mekki

www.dajjaal.com/liar/articles/mrayz-shay...and-their-ruling.cfm

Zakir Naik

www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=8&Topic=5149

This is the place, Maruf Kedir and Ahmed Geddy bring the children and teenagers to learn their religion? They direct them away from the likes of Shaykh Muhammad Ramzān, Dāwūd Adīb etc. for a weekend and replace it with the likes of the above? If it wasn't clear that these individuals changed in their approach, in Manhaj, then it should be crystal clear now. May Allaah guide them. We remember advising them:

Be careful, should you leave the Salafīs, the hizbees will surround you, praise you and seek to unite with you


Something they acknowledged but regardless, they proceeded and as they say, the rest is history.
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6 years 7 months ago - 6 years 7 months ago #2265 by troid.org admin
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A good advice for those who feign knowledge, cooperating with Ahlul-Bid'ah and waving university credentials around as a means of proof of knowledge, mixing with Ahlul-Bid'ah claiming it is "da'wah ilaa tawḥīd" and even writing books now (devoid of Arabic grammar on the cover). Calm down young men and seek knowledge sincerely, at length and don't be amazed with yourselves.

The humility of Shaykh al-Albānī:

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In the name of Allāh, the Most Merciful, the Bestower of Mercy.
As-salāmu 'alaikum wa rahmatullāhi wa barakātuh.

A beautiful piece translated by our noble brother and student of knowledge Abūl-Ḥasan Maalik (hafiẓahullāh) containing advice by an Imām of the Sunnah to the young students of knowledge.

An advice that is applicable to those enraged and arrogant youth returning from Dammaaj filled with tabdee' and hatred of the Salafis and their scholars - and likewise an advice to those from the group known as "Madinah-dot-com" who return with Tamyee' and softness towards the opposers of the Sunnah (from al-Ikhwaan al-Muslimoon and others) whilst showing bare-teethed venom for the Salafis. Both of these groups (and those with them in the West) have gone to excesses - and both feign knowledge and pretend to defend the "truth" as they see it. Shaikh Rabee, Shaikh Ubaid, Shaikh, Muhammad bin Hādī, Shaikh Abdullāh al-Bukhārī, Shaikh Muhammad al-ʿAnjarī (etc.) have rightly warned against them.

Advice for Young Students of Knowledge

By al-Muḥaddith Muḥammad Nāṣir al-Dīn Ṣāliḥ
(Translated by Abū al-Ḥasan Mālik Ādam al-Akhḍar)

In the course of advising young students of knowledge, the Muḥaddith of this era, Muḥammad Nāsir al-Dīn Ṣāliḥ (raḥimahullāh), stated:

"And therefore, I always advise our brothers who are beginners in this science (i.e. al-Hadith) not to be hasty in spreading their researches and writings; rather, they should put them away for safekeeping until they have matured.

And truth be told, from the trials of this era is love of fame and placing oneself in the group of authors, especially in the science of al-Hadith, whose virtue the people have recently recognized after neglecting it for ages; however, they have not appreciated its true value. They mistakenly believed that simply because a person has the ability to reference different sources and cite them that he has the ability to write commentaries and author books. We ask Allāh (Azza wa Jal) for safety from vanity and self-amazement."

Source: al-Silsilah al-Ḍa’īfah (11/697)

Taken from: rahmaniyyahpublishing.wordpress.com/gene...ir-al-din-al-albani/

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